{"id":506,"date":"2009-02-17T10:17:29","date_gmt":"2009-02-17T17:17:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.wkblog.com\/tivo\/?p=506"},"modified":"2009-02-17T10:17:29","modified_gmt":"2009-02-17T17:17:29","slug":"moxi-presents-tivo-comparison-tivo-wins","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.wkblog.com\/tivo\/2009\/02\/moxi-presents-tivo-comparison-tivo-wins\/","title":{"rendered":"Moxi Presents TiVo Comparison &#8211; TiVo Wins"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>While digging around online, I found a <a href=\"http:\/\/moxi.com\/moxi\/moxi_tivo_compare.jsp\">page on Moxi&#8217;s website<\/a> comparing the two companies&#8217; HD DVRs. These are basically the only units around that use CableCARDs, so it&#8217;s interesting to see how the underdog tries to compare itself to TiVo.<\/p>\n<p>I just found this today, so it may be that this is dated, but here&#8217;s a screenshot of the comparison:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-507\" title=\"picture-9\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wkblog.com\/tivo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/picture-9.png\" alt=\"picture-9\" width=\"503\" height=\"565\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wkblog.com\/tivo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/picture-9.png 503w, https:\/\/www.wkblog.com\/tivo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/picture-9-133x150.png 133w, https:\/\/www.wkblog.com\/tivo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/picture-9-267x300.png 267w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 503px) 100vw, 503px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Sure, I&#8217;m a big TiVo fan, so I&#8217;m biased, but I&#8217;ll ask the obvious question: what unit costs $699 and has 32 HD and 120 SD hours of capacity? I&#8217;m guessing they&#8217;re taking the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.weaknees.com\/series-3-hd-tivo.php\">TiVo HD<\/a> ($299) and adding in lifetime service ($399 for new subscribers, $299 for existing) to get $699. So, for the record, that should be 20 HD hours and 180 SD hours. The TiVo Series3 was 32 HD hours, but not 120 SD hours. So I can&#8217;t figure out where that figure ever came from.<\/p>\n<p>OK, so then multi-room DVR sharing? They both have it, but the extra Moxi boxes will cost $799 while extra TiVo boxes with lifetime will now cost $598, since you save $100 on lifetime for each extra box. That&#8217;s $200 less than Moxi.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Yes, Moxi has HD menus (although those are coming to TiVo) and arcade games (which you can do to some extent on TiVos) and Flickr. But TiVo has:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.wkblog.com\/tivo\/2008\/12\/netflix-is-live-on-tivos-stream-instantly\/\">Netflix<\/a> streaming &#8211; this, alone, is pretty huge<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.wkblog.com\/tivo\/2007\/11\/amazon-unbox-on-tivo\/\">Amazon VOD<\/a> &#8211; formerly Amazon Unbox<\/li>\n<li>YouTube<\/li>\n<li>Yahoo! connections<\/li>\n<li>TiVo cast<\/li>\n<li>many more internet features, with more coming all the time<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Beyond that, of course, there&#8217;s the chance that &#8220;lifetime service&#8221; means something with the unit. I&#8217;m pretty sure TiVo is here to stay for quite a while. Moxi and Digeo? Very uncertain, to say the least. That&#8217;s not an $800 bet I&#8217;d want to make.<\/p>\n<p>Now Digeo and Moxi may be around for quite some time, and they may make a big deal with a cable provider who would use their units to deploy in customers&#8217; homes like the Scientific Atlanta model. But not at these prices. And judging by the traffic in our <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wkforums.com\/forums\/forumdisplay.php?f=22\">Moxi forums<\/a>, it doesn&#8217;t seem like too many boxes are already out there.<\/p>\n<p>I wish Moxi the best, and I do hope they survive even if it&#8217;s just so that TiVo always has a competitor. But this comparison chart just feels very misleading, to me. If the product can&#8217;t compare to TiVo on TiVo&#8217;s true features, fine, just don&#8217;t post a very selective list.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>While digging around online, I found a page on Moxi&#8217;s website comparing the two companies&#8217; HD DVRs. These are basically the only units around that use CableCARDs, so it&#8217;s interesting to see how the underdog tries to compare itself to TiVo. I just found this today, so it may be that this is dated, but [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[8,5],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wkblog.com\/tivo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/506"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wkblog.com\/tivo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wkblog.com\/tivo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wkblog.com\/tivo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wkblog.com\/tivo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=506"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.wkblog.com\/tivo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/506\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":510,"href":"https:\/\/www.wkblog.com\/tivo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/506\/revisions\/510"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wkblog.com\/tivo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=506"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wkblog.com\/tivo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=506"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wkblog.com\/tivo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=506"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}